Archives for September 2008

The Extramarital Affair and Tolerations

What is tolerated in an extramarital affair by the “offended” spouse or partner?

Do any of these ring true for you? Do you have other tolerations? If so, leave comments below.

List of tolerations from my readers:

>Lying not being able to trust him
>lack of communication
>not showing/admitting his true feelings
>emotional detachment
>hot and cold behavior towards me
>blaming me for the affair
>putting so much energy into new relationship that business is on verge of collapse
>moved out of house, but gets angry when he comes home and something is out of place
>really long phone conversations when suppose to be with me or daughter
>living with the partner,
>having fun with her,
>having both worlds,
>keeping his secret,
>holding on
>Aggression from my husband toward me
>The level of the lying
>The lack of affection toward me
>The feeling that I am tolerated, and he is staying for the sake of the family >The rejection
>silence
>uncertainty (I think she is still contacting him somehow)
>it’s like pulling teeth to get ANYTHING out of her
>mood swings when she does speak, it’s like getting open ended answers
>questioning who i am
>distrust
>analyzing my behavior
>analyzing spouses behavior
>biting my tongue way too often

Want to talk? Ever think about having a coach?

Emotional Infidelity: Nothing There

Confronting the other woman in this instance discovered that no one (emotionally) was home.

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

I contacted the OP to try and reveal some of the truth. I found them together on my anniversary. They were at her home and he backing his vehicle out of her garage. He told me he had to go there because she was going to commit suicide.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

The OP advised me that the affair has been going on for 2 years, they just finished making love, and the passion is so intense between the both of them that neither of them can give up the relationship. She also advised me that she was never going to commit suicide, however she did go on another date that night with another man that did not turn out favorable and my spouse came to the rescue. By other questions that I asked, I found that my spouse was more involved with her sexually than ever with me and nights he spent away from her.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

In this position, I do not regret confronting the OP. I did learn how mislead I was by my spouse. After I confronted the OP, I asked my spouse the same questions watched his body language and I was amazed how well he has lied. I am approaching 4 years after the affair, trying to work things out. I do regret trying to work things out and do wish I ended the relationship when I found them together. This is based on my learning experience from confronting the OP – I am with a professional liar.

Coach’s Comments:

It seems amazing how open and forthright the OP was in divulging the extent of the infidelity. It’s as if saying, “Well, I went to the grocery store, picked up a few things and drove back home.” No big deal.

This is a picture of two people (the OP and the writer’s husband) who merely don’t want to say no. Glands dominate. And, it would appear they will settle for that in a relationship, or are clueless about the power and richness of true intimacy with someone.

Lying becomes second nature for someone how “Can’t say NO.” It’s part of the character. Often lying extends into all arenas of life. It seems there is a need to build an illusion of need entitlement and that illusion is constructed on lies. Little depth.

It appears that he was unable to move any deeper in his relationships. It took four years of her knocking on his emotional door to find there was absolutely nothing behind it.

Infidelity and Tough Love

I’m doing research on confronting the other person. Although this man did not confront the OP, he did confront his wife in a powerful way, and it seemed to work for him.

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

After my W decided to separate I discovered few e-mails exchanged with her high school lover with whom she had a one night stand during their reunion and with whom she continued a long distance affair, even during our marriage therapy! To my shock I also discovered erotic messages exchanged with a co-worker and a message from a friend of hers telling “the hell with your H, go out and find somebody with whom you have chemistry and brings food on your table”. I was shocked, I vomited and I wanted to sort our problems under the same roof, w/o physical separation.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

My W turned white when I confronted her; said with the 1st lover it happened only once and with the co-worker is only a flirt and if I say something more about this guy she will go and “#$&% with him” the following day. When asked how she feel sleeping with her first lover she said she felt sorry for me finding out. Then turned nervous about me snooping through her e-mails. After a day she turned nice and was obsessed about what am I going to do with the evidence. She was afraid I will expose her affair to her boss.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

Absolutely. If involved in affairs, cheaters will continue to lie, minimize their actions. I waited three excruciating days until I confronted my W, but I would stay longer, get more evidence, a backbone and definitely support. Do not beg, ask for another chance, cry. Set clear boundaries and if the cheating spouse is willing to repair the broken trust, relationship, marriage, state clear you want proof the OP is completely out of the picture. The impression you can stop the behavior by exposing the evidence is false, they will continue on the infidelity path until they hit rock bottom. When having suspicions about an affair going in your spouse life it is usually what is happening. Get info on cheating people behavior and not be fooled by lack of complaining and improved sex life; you are simply a body, used in the most dirty manner. Definitely, do not involve family, close friends about the affair. They mean the best either for you, your spouse, but they cannot make decisions for you.

Coach’s comments:

I give this man credit for thinking through his actions and for learning. It sounds like this was a tremendous learning experience for him. He did his homework. Set some goals. Stuck with them. And got the optimum result he wanted.

He describes a strategy that some call “tough Love.” Set some boundaries. Hold firm. Don’t give in.

This strategy works best for the “I Don’t Want to Say No” Affair. Her “turning white” was her humiliation for being found out and the fear of being exposed. Once he held his ground, and she knew he would NOT back down, she called off her threats.

There may be thrown in here a tad bit of “My Marriage Made Me Do It” and perhaps “I Need to Prove My Desirability.” There is an undercurrent of anger or outright hostility emerging from somewhere and she seems cut off from appropriate feelings toward her husband.

Do you have thoughts? I and others would appreciate your comments below.