Confronting the other Man: Seeing the End of the Marriage

When confronting the other man, when is enough enough?

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

My purpose for confronting the other married man my wife was having an affair with was to approach him as a man to man fighting for the marriage. I told him that he was causing our marriage to fall apart and asked that he back off and allow my wife and I the chance to reconcile for the sake of the kids and our families… plus I still loved her as sad as that may sound.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

At first he threatened me over the phone that if I let anything out about his relationship with my wife to his wife that his family would have ways to deal with me and that I didn’t know what I was messing with. He basically threatened my life. Oh, he also denied that he had done anything wrong by being involved with my wife even thought it was kept a secret from his wife and my wife tried to keep it secret from me and even took extreme measures to hide it i.e. adding him to her mobile to mobile group so she wouldn’t rack up huge cell bills and having the billing address changed to a secret P.O. Box. Anyway, the outcome was that he promised to back out of our lives and would respect my request that we be allowed to try and save our marriage. I in turned agreed not to tell his wife of his secret. (I basically just wanted the bastard to go away) In the end, things continued but even more secret, they tried to be more careful not to leave evidence but I had installed a PC spy program, voice recorder on out home phone etc… I knew the truth even though it was denied over and over again. In the end, my wife divorced me, she now dates this slime and has involved our 2 daughters ages 13 & 15 into the affair, he buys them visa gift cards and takes them out to dinner etc… all still behind his wifes back. I ended up with over $40,000 in attorney fees from allowing it to drag on for over 2 1/2 years trying to reason some sense into my ex-wifes head… it didn’t work unfortunately.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

If I were to do it again, I would have filed for divorce immediately, got all the evidence of the affair in order to present to his wife once I had moved out with my children. Instead, I let my emotions rule my better judgment and I allowed myself to be further victimized by the affair.

Coach’s Comments:

A common but difficult question: When does the writing on the wall say… no more. This is and never will work?

In this case study the man in hindsight should have pulled the plug on the relationship earlier, before spending $40,000 and countless sleepless nights.
And yet, if you’ve been there, that is easier said than done, is it not?

How was he to know? What were the markers along the way that said the relationship was beyond repair?

Well, the other man’s threats were red flag number one. Threats are primitive. Threats indicate an unhealthy person with little flexibility, insight and sensitivity to others.

The continued secrets and lies, after the alleged agreement, were another red flag that he was headed for trouble. No honor.

It is also problematic to set up an agreement with a triangle (you the OP and your spouse) with the hope that it will remain intact and honored. After all, isn’t an affair a blatant disregard for marriage vows? How can one expect someone who easily and consistently break those vows to honor other agreements?

A telling statement of this man is his “feelings or emotions ruled.” His time and energy would have been more effectively spent disengaging himself from those feelings (remaining calm in the face of infidelity and the pain, hurt, loss, anger) so that other strategies for different types of affairs could be used to alter his relationship with his wife.

Confronting the other Woman: Revenge affair

Another case study: Confronting the other woman when facing a Revenge affair.

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

The OP had no idea my husband was married. He had told her he was divorced. He travels and she was living in the state he was working in during those months. My motivation was to verify if he had told me the truth about her and their relationship…he hadn’t, he had left out alot and tried to smooth over the details so I wouldn’t know just how involved they were and how much he had betrayed me. His was a revenge affair against me.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

She was apologetic because she didn’t know, and felt horrible for hurting me unknowingly. And had alot of anger towards him as well. She assured me that if he contacted her in any way she would let me know. She also brought to light some of his lies he kept telling me for the next year AFTER the affair. She contacts me every once and awhile to see how I’m doing and vice versa. We formed an awkward friendship of sorts, trying to repair ourselves. Neither one of us hates the other in any way, and have leaned on each other for emotional support occasionally. She supported me when I decided to stay with my husband and work things out. It’s been a long road.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

No I would not do it differently. Especially since he was lying to both of us, I felt responsible to clear the air as to my status with him (yes we were married, i was 9 months pregnant when i found out.) I learned that when the cheating spouse is found out, they want the discovery anger to be brief and the recovery to be quick. And they will deny details to ensure that happens (i.e. i only saw her once a week , when really, he saw her every night, etc.) I learned that I can be the bigger person, and even through the hurt I could forgive the OP in this situation and see the situation for what it was.

Coach’s Comments:

Let’s assume that her assessment is correct; that it is a revenge affair. (Affair type #5 in my E-book, Break Free From the Affair.)

If facing this type of affair, one is confronted with slippery slopes. By that I mean, it’s often very difficult to nail down exactly what is happening. It’s difficult to get a straight answer. One often wonders what the spouse is thinking. And, one picks up on this undercurrent of hostility that says, “leave me alone.”

Some refer to this as “passive aggressive” behavior. The husband was exhibiting the same behavior with the other person – withholding, passively controlling and in essence, limiting intimacy.

Confronting the other person brought clarity and the truth. When the husband was confronted with the truth the gig was up.

Please know that this revenge affair did not slide into a rage affair. Perhaps, over time, if the wife continues confronting the underlying resentment more intimacy might emerge in the marriage.

Infidelity and the Truth: Not in the Emotional Affair

Do you believe that if you confront the other woman, she will tell you the truth?

Hardly, since an affair is built upon deception.

The emotional energy demanded by this type of affair can be intense.

Read this case study and my comments:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

To find out how far the emotional affair had gone.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

She denied communications with my husband, which I already saw from the cell phone charges and knew she was lying. She also blamed him for contacting her and that she was just talking to him to help him work on his marriage. The outcome was my husband was angry with her for blaming him for a friendship she initiated, and she no longer wanted anything to do with him because he was married with a family.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

Yes, I would have confronted her the first time she hung up on me when I answered the phone(6 months earlier). I wouldn’t have contacted her – I knew what was going on. I should have separated from my husband and made him face what he was doing without a cushion of being home with his family. I will have less compassion for my husband or the lonely other woman.

Coach’s Comments:

I’m guessing we’re dealing with a form of the “I Fell out of Love… and just love being love” type of affair. This affair revolves around the emotional component.

And, someone involved in an emotional kind of affair is usually (please note, there are exceptions to patterns) a fairly dependent person who focuses his/her life on eliciting from others feedback that will make him/her feel good. Good feelings often come as a result of outside triggers rather than from inside one as they live out their life with purpose, standards and well grounded values.

This person will “play” those people in his/her life to create and guard his/her feelings. Deception is often part of this “playing” since s/he must manipulate his/her world to maintain those “feelings” and keep others away from discovering or her/his disclosing her/his inner emptiness.

Don’t expect the truth here.