Confronting the Other Woman: Game of Uproar

Confronting the other woman may trigger the game of uproar.

Case Study:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

On the day I found out had made a phone call to a number my husband had called several times the night before.( I grabbed his cell phone) A woman answered. Eventually after asking her several times if she was having an affair with him she said yes.I then proceeded to tell her a few things about our relationship she was unaware of, like we were going away for 3 wks ( she thought he was going on a business trip)that we still slept together( he told her we didn’t) and that he had a sexually transmitted disease.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

We were both keen to meet and to confront him as he had been lying to us both. It didn’t change anything as he continued denying it all and they are still together.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

I learned that she could never be my accomplice or aid in bringing him to his senses no matter how many lies he was telling her .I asked him to move out which she had no doubt been hoping he would do for years so I played right into her hands.She was angry with him and broke it off briefly but needs his financial support. She is a big spender,bankrupt and unemployed and he has a good job. She drinks at the pub he frequents after work which is where she met him.We have caught him out on a few lies on other occasions but now I have backed off . She is also involved with another married man from time to time,but they are still together.He tells me he is caught in a web he cant seem to break free from.

Coach’s Comments:

1. Eric Berne (sp), an author in the 70s describes a game that many couples play called “uproar.” The intent of the game is to keep the pot stirred, which provides “juice” for the relationship but seldom leads to intimacy. Thus you have a purpose of the relationship, yet it seems “safe” for those who fear the true intimacy of knowing and being known.

2. The above case study seems like a game of uproar. And, this time there is a triangle of 3 that keeps the juice flowing. Uproar is often game played when an addiction (alcohol in this case?) is involved.

3. The remedy for uproar is to state one’s position by charging neutral and back away. Declaring one’s self [without referring to the other person(s)] reduces the power of the game and sets boundaries which also makes the game less fun. Boundaries are the anathema of uproar. This tactic is especially important when facing the “I fell out of love…and just loved being in love” affair.

Infidelity Chat Room

Have you been to the infidelity chat room? It may not be for everyone, but some find it a key component in recovering from infidelity.

Listen to what some chat room users say:

1. List 2-3 ways the Chat Room has played a significant part in your “recovery.”

>>>>I realize that I am not alone and unfortunately my husband has used the same lies and excuses that almost every other betrayed spouse has.

>>>>I no longer feel alone. When my husband is being nasty and distant I log on and chat to the others. The support is a God sent.

>>>>someone is always there to listen seeing that others have also gone through it helps

>>>>I am very new myself..not much for stories to tell, just that I appreciate the opportunity to hear others opinions…hearing from someone who has hurt the same as I means more to me than you will ever realize!

>>>>Sharing of the pain Realizing there’s worse off than yourself Getting things off my chest

2. What are a couple pieces of advice you would give a newbie to the Chat Room?

>>>>Just dive in and let people know your story. Everyone is really supportive and wants to help you through the pain

>>>>Wait – listen – take support and give support

>>>>dive right in – you will feel better check back often – there are different people on at different times

>>>>You’ll be surprised at the relief talking with people coming from the same situation does to make you not feel like you’re the only one going through this. Sadly it’s all too common :-( Our situation (blended family) had a lot of other sub issues which contributed to it all. Speaking to others on how they handle things, not just an affair is also very helpful & humanising.

Infidelity: Confronting and Spying on the Other Person

Some use confronting the other person to spy and gain information for the future, as in this case study:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

Called him in his far-away city. Purpose: Record conversation for an alienation of affection lawsuit. “Marriage Made Me Do It” type of affair. Asked what he thought was going to happen to my kids when I found out about the affair.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

He told me to “get over it, dude”. He insincerely apologized. He said it was his fault. He said they didn’t have sex. He said that because they didn’t have sex it wasn’t an affair.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

I learned that he is a pompous narcissistic asshole who is willing to cheat on his wife, and my wife doesn’t see that. To do differently- probably nothing else. 20 minutes of him incriminating himself was enough along with the other evidence.

Coach’s Comments:

1. It is common for someone who blames their marriage for the infidelity to fall for a narcissist. The narcissist projects power and can adapt him/herself to fit the expectations of the “My Marriage Made Me Do It” person. This is the art of seduction. Once s/he scores, it’s usually over.

2. I’m not an expert on spying, but it seems that a direct confrontation with the other person is a risky way to obtain information, unless the attorney briefed him on what to do. A PI usually has more experience in such matters.