Confronting the Other Woman: Game of Uproar

Confronting the other woman may trigger the game of uproar.

Case Study:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

On the day I found out had made a phone call to a number my husband had called several times the night before.( I grabbed his cell phone) A woman answered. Eventually after asking her several times if she was having an affair with him she said yes.I then proceeded to tell her a few things about our relationship she was unaware of, like we were going away for 3 wks ( she thought he was going on a business trip)that we still slept together( he told her we didn’t) and that he had a sexually transmitted disease.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

We were both keen to meet and to confront him as he had been lying to us both. It didn’t change anything as he continued denying it all and they are still together.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

I learned that she could never be my accomplice or aid in bringing him to his senses no matter how many lies he was telling her .I asked him to move out which she had no doubt been hoping he would do for years so I played right into her hands.She was angry with him and broke it off briefly but needs his financial support. She is a big spender,bankrupt and unemployed and he has a good job. She drinks at the pub he frequents after work which is where she met him.We have caught him out on a few lies on other occasions but now I have backed off . She is also involved with another married man from time to time,but they are still together.He tells me he is caught in a web he cant seem to break free from.

Coach’s Comments:

1. Eric Berne (sp), an author in the 70s describes a game that many couples play called “uproar.” The intent of the game is to keep the pot stirred, which provides “juice” for the relationship but seldom leads to intimacy. Thus you have a purpose of the relationship, yet it seems “safe” for those who fear the true intimacy of knowing and being known.

2. The above case study seems like a game of uproar. And, this time there is a triangle of 3 that keeps the juice flowing. Uproar is often game played when an addiction (alcohol in this case?) is involved.

3. The remedy for uproar is to state one’s position by charging neutral and back away. Declaring one’s self [without referring to the other person(s)] reduces the power of the game and sets boundaries which also makes the game less fun. Boundaries are the anathema of uproar. This tactic is especially important when facing the “I fell out of love…and just loved being in love” affair.

Confronting the Other Woman: Former “Friend”

What happens when a person confronts the other woman who was a friend?

Check out this case study:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

My husband and the other woman keep saying they were just friends and that they were not having an affair, i wanted to talk to her to get things straight from her, she was my very good friend as well. We meet 2 times and I asked her questions about situations, but the answers were ones she and my husband had come up with to cover there behinds.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

She lied about everything. She said they were just friends and that they had to talk to each other and meet because of the committees and things they were on together.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

I am not sure I would do it differently. I need answers and although I did not get those answers at the time I found out the liar she was and her true self was revealed in time. I learned that even if you get answers it does not help because there are some things I will never understand. Plus you only know what a person wants you to know. My friend deceived me, she went after my husband and would still take him to this day.

Coach’s Comments:

1. What is a friend? What are the markers or characteristics that tell you that a friend is a friend? What qualities do you want in a friend? How do you truly know they are there? What level of self disclosure do you need and expect in a friendship?

2. Many types of affairs (“I fell out of love…and just love being in love,” “My Marriage Made Me Do It,” and “I want to be close to somone…but can’t stand intimacy”) often involve a kindled relationship of someone fairly close – neighbor, couples with whom you socialize, common friend, and in some cases, extended family members. Feelings are stirred that may develop into infidelity and a triangle whereby the three, who were once friends, now dramatically change the relationship.

3. When confronting the “friend” know that the relationship as changed. Do not expect favors or the disclosure of truth. It may happen, but probably not. Once boundaries are crossed, it’s very difficult, well nigh impossible, to go back and expect “friendship.”

Infidelity: Character Wins

When infidelity occurs character wins – in the long run.

Here’s a case study of confronting the other woman in which the character of the other woman emerges.

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

I wanted to see her face to face. She had visited my home with her husband and even came to dinner parties, twice. Clearly this kept me off track so I wanted to talk to her. I had already spoken with my husband but I thought her behaviour was really very bad. I was always under the assumption that people having affairs would want to keep it very secret and the fact that she had wanted to visit my home and meet my children was, to me, psychotic.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

I was very calm. We met at my sister’s apartment and spoke for about 2 hours. My husband joined us towards the end. I got the usual junk about how hard it was for her to make female friends (barf!). Her intent was to tell me that it basically was a friendship gone too far. Unfortunately, my husband and I had spoken at length and in great detail before I met with her so I was able to discount much of what she was saying. She was from another country and had faked meetings to fly here and see my husband and so I was able to ask her why a “friendship” required physical contact. Anyway, I really got tired of her quickly and told my husband to drop her back at her hotel. I was done with her. He let me know that she was afraid that I would tell her husband. A few weeks later I did tell him due to some other stunt she pulled. I have no idea where or what she is doing now. That was 6 years ago and I am still going through recovery with my husband and it has its upsides in that we are closer. Nothing I have ever experienced has come close to being as devastating and I am a cancer-remission-survivor- who at one point was told I may not live for more that 5 more years!!
3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?
I would do it again in a heartbeat just to see for myself that she was really an awful human being. I learned that she really didn’t matter in the long run.

Coach’s Comments:

1. The character of a person does count for something. Character- or lack of it – shines through. A person’s inner moral compass, a person’s set of values; the way they make decisions based upon those values of what is right, uplifting and wholesome for them often are set aside during an affair. An affair is a suspension of character.

2. For some that lack of character is a deeply ingrained trait. In reality they probably are not aware that s/he lacks character or has a an inner compass that guides decisions. An affair therefore, is fairly easy for him/her. His/her lack of character continues long after the affair ends.

3. The lack of character in this other woman became obvious. Lack of character is very unattractive. The cheated upon wife obviously had insight to pick up on this and as she implies, tired of the other person. Fortunately the cheating husband also was able to see this lack of character.

4. It was extremely helpful to have the “blessing” of the husband when it came to confronting the other woman. This is proving to be an important element in making the confrontation constructive and avoiding the soap opera status.