Confronting the Other Man: Macho May Work

As I’ve read through more than a hundred stories of confronting the other person, a theme begins to emerge. A high number confront the other person to establish some type of control or power in their situation. Sometimes it works. Sometimes the confrontation is a disaster.

Of course, this follows my theory that affairs are different and it takes different strategies for different types of affairs to insure a successful intervention.

The person below realized that his confrontation involved his need to be “macho.”

But, it had a powerful impact. My guess: she was involved in a “I fell out of love…and just love being in love type of affair. She was playing and got caught.

Side note: the confrontation enables this man to free himself from the infidelity and blame.

One final thought that this confrontation teaches: You must NOT bluff when you walk out.

Interesting story:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

Some of it was a macho thing to be honest. Most of it was partial closure for me.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

I’d gotten to the point where it was decision time for me, and I called him to tell him that he could have her and I wanted nothing more to do with her. I told my wife of the call what I told him. The blood drained from her face when I showed call details showing that I called the guy she’d been seeing. I tossed the phone on the bed and walked to get my suitcase as I’d decided to leave then & there. My wife stayed in the room while I calmly packed and listened to her tell me how much she loved me, how little the OP means to her, and how this was all the worst mistake of her life, etc. he OP ended up hearing things like, “He means nothing to me. Please don’t pack. You can’t leave.” More things about how unimportant he really was to her and so on. A short time later I was in the basement getting other things to take. The house phone rang and it was the OP calling my wife. I was downstairs and didn’t hear the phone. A couple of minutes later my wife came down and told me of the call, and that he’d heard everything we were saying upstairs. He didn’t answer the call and it filled his voice mail with several minutes of her rantings & crying of how little the OP meant to her, etc. The call he made to her on the house phone basically told her to end all contact and things were over. The following day the OP called my cell while I was at work. When I had called him the previous evening, I blocked my cell number, and the accidental on was also blocked as it was a re-dial. I asked him how he had my number and he admitted to taking it and many others from my wife’s cell phone months earlier. He then asked if I had intentionally called him & left the line open. When I explained the accident he could see how it happened with flinging the phone. I was able to get quite a bit of information regarding the questions I’d had for some time. I was even able to find out that the OP had been on outings with my wife and she even brought our our eight year old son with them. It turned out that a couple we knew went double-dating with them on more than one occasion. In simple terms there were apparently no limits as far as my wife’s conduct was concerned.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

While some of the information stung quite a bit, it was good to know and I realize that I needed it. It cleared up many mysteries surrounding the previous months and allowed me to stop wrestling with my own destructive guilt & shame. I was able properly see that there was no way for me to anticipate or counter what she did. There were no warnings that tipped me off and no horns of alarm. Of course, having gone through this experience, I now see things quite differently. I see that while there were no warnings horns, there were things that I was missed in our relationship. Things that may have had a difference, no matter how small. But the bottom line is that I was able to stop torturing myself for bad decisions that she decided to make regarding her lack of commitment to our children and me.

Confronting the Other Woman: Live and Learn

Life is a journey. I know, a trite cliche.

How about: We never “arrive.” As long as there is breath in the lungs we soak up the events and emotions of life, respond internally and externally to them and learn.

Each crisis, such as infidelity, is a seedbed from which new awareness, hope and strength emerge.

The person in the scenario below describes her learning process.

The first time of confronting the other person (or more accurately, venting on the other person) was not by the book. She was not whom she really wanted to be. But… and this is a huge but… she seemed to feel better.

In that process, as ugly as it was, she discovered, at some level, in some way, personal strength.

Later, reflecting on her behavior she had the insight and courage to learn. The second time around – if there was one – she would respond in a way that would do honor to her.

Here’s the story:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

1st time: Purpose: I found husband & OP together at his office, I confronted both of them in shock. I was flooded with emotions, I abused both of them in anger, I called her a scrag, ‘scanky bi#*h’, I was crying. Her response was, ‘don’t lower yourself’ in tears and frustration I made it clear that I possibly couldn’t be any lower so what does it matter what I say to you. Confrontation 2: Over the phone about 2 months into their affair. (My husband was still coming home at 6am to do breakfast and help get kids ready for school and of an evening would come home for dinner & leave after kids had gone to bed, to go to her) Purpose: Phone call to ask her what she thought of situation. She was very disrespectful, her comment was ‘if you had looked after your husband he wouldn’t be doing this.” She also pushed my buttons by saying “Do you think I’m the first girl he’s had an affair with?” I told her that regardless of what my husband said you, as girls we have morals and married men are ‘no go,’ I asked her if she thought she could fix our problems by having an affair with my husband? I also told her ‘what goes around comes around’ and that I can’t wait for this to happen to her because she deserves it. Confrontation many times after this, I was acting very irrationally and engaging with all sorts of thoughts in my head and began making prank phone calls to her and hanging up, I would do this to really annoy the hell out of her even though it was doing me more harm as I kept re living and engaging with the drama of this affair.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

What happened was it became very clear that I knew everything or a lot of what was going on between them, it wasn’t so much a secret anymore and that I knew that their little game was over but knew I had to be careful because it could develop into another form, a stronger bond. Mostly the calls would end with me telling her what a sl#t she was, and how dare she ruin the lives of my 2 young children. On the last occasion I told her that they deserve each other. The outcome: I have to say I felt better. I vented all of my anger onto her (not my husband for whatever reason) I know it’s not healthy but god it felt good to let her know what I really thought and to say a few really crass words to make her feel guilty, angry and ashamed. (the exact 3 words are how I felt through it all) My husband and I are now back together and we are much stronger and happier than ever before, we are still the same but so many shifts have taken place that I know I’m a much better person before the affair took place.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

If I were to rewind the tape to the point where I found them together at work I don’t think I would do anything differently. I said and felt everything that I thought was the best at that point in time, even if it was irrational. If my husband was to have another affair I would certainly respond differently, I’m a much happier, healthier person and my new found strength would allow me to walk away with head held high and my two kids in my arms and I know that we would be okay. I certainly wouldn’t contact the OP because I couldn’t be bothered, the affair would say too much about my husband not me and I would be glad to get out of that horrid situation. Yes…sometimes I have fears and anxieties that it will happen again but mostly I feel free of those emotions….thank goodness

Disaster Confronting the Other Woman

Timing and one’s source of strength are crucial in confronting the other woman. Bad time and reactivity spells and mistake and DISASTER.

Read this case study and my comments below:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

I couldn’t really believe it was happening and wanted to hear from her mouth the truth (which I didn’t). Then I wanted to tell her she was evil to destroy a family. I wanted to hurt her. I wanted to make her go away. I thought I was strong and powerful enough to do this.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

She said lots of hurtful things to me right back! Basically, that it was my own fault. I collapsed on the floor sobbing in front of my husband. I did not then get the response and help I wanted desperately from him either; I felt and experienced to my horror that he seemed to be on her side. It was an unmitigated disaster from all angles. Probably one of the top 2 or 3 worst experiences of my life.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

It was a mistake to confront her in anger, it just made things worse–and I had not thought things could get worse. But it is so hard when you are confronted with infidelity in someone you love and trust and have built up a life with over so many years! I think the only time it might be right to confront the other person when your spouse has fallen madly in love with them is when one has been able to calm down, and would not be confronttional, but I think in this situation it is a losing battle. They are a team, they are together. I was out. I was confronted with this ugly reality. I think its better just to confront the spouse, which keeps the focus and the power on whatever is left of your relationship. Bringing in the other person gives them power. And all this being said, I still have fantasies of telling her what I think of her! In some ways I am glad I did, but if she ends up marrying my husband and is step mother to my young child, then having her and myself hating eachother is also not a good outcome, which a confrontation in a passionate affair will engender (at least it did in mine).

Coach’s Comments:

1. The first 7 words written by this person are key: “I couldn’t really believe it was happenning.” It appears she was in a state of shock and disbelief. This is NOT a good time to confront the other person. The feelings are raw and unexplored. There is no center from which to operate and stand firm.

2. As well, the anger and rage have not subsided which makes the confrontation very raw. Strong and powerful are not to be confused with angry and “I’ll let her have a piece of my mind.” In reality, approaching from an position of rage and revenge is a position of weakness.

3. Preparation for the confrontation is vital. Exploring every possible scenario and a brutally honest evaluation of whether one is ready to handle what s/he might discover is crucial.

4. This person’s timing was obviously off. Perhaps after a couple of months of moving through the shock, anger and rage she might be more ready.