Infidelity Truth? Once a Cheater… Always?

Some believe that once a cheat, always a cheat.

Well, for one kind of affair (“I Don’t Want to Say No“) this is largely true. There is a deeply ingrained long-standing pattern that belies a sense of entitlement and the personal need to exercise power and manipulation over others.

This type of affair is typified in the scenario below as the wounded spouse confronts the other woman (note: texting another man behind the back of another and her response to the confrontation.)

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

My husband had been having a type of “emotional affair.” It was a case of “Just friends” with a work colleague, but at some point she went on vacation with her boyfriend. While in a different country, she emailed “I love you” messages to my husband, behind her boyfriends back. My husband wrote an over the top affectionate email to her, so he could tell her that the friendship had gone too far. When he spoke to her by phone when she got back, he told her that things had gone too far and things should resume to work friendliness only. She ignored him and called relentlessly, about 40 times in 2 weeks. He called casually twice. This whole “affair” thing came to light when he forgot to sign off on his computer and I saw her “ILY” emails right on the screen. He was “caught.” I was in such shock and pain, I asked husband to call here and tell her whatever it was, was over between them. He refused, left the house to call her and tell her it was over. In my immediate shock, I called her at work to simply tell her I knew about her and the emails she’d sent.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

I called her office, she answered the phone and I told her who I was. There was a period of dead silence. I think she was very surprised, and couldn’t talk at first. Then, she said in a very obnoxious tone, “I don’t know you, I’ve never met you.” I said “No, but you know my husband, John Smith (fake name). She then said my marriage problems were between me and my husband. She said a few mean things, and then hung up on me. All I said was that I knew she’d been emailing my husband. She came up with the rest of it.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

I don’t know that I learned anything, except perhaps that this woman was extremely cold, and sounded selfish. There was something ugly in the way that she could react with such spitefulness toward someone she knew would obviously be quite hurt and shocked. Even though emotions were going crazy inside me, when I spoke to her, only the sentences I wrote above, I said them calmly to her. I simply let her know I knew about her and I also said there was impropriety if nothing else, in her dealings with my husband. I did nothing undignified, and I’m ok with that. In retrospect, if I had it to do over I probably would not have called. Why even let them get the satisfaction of knowing they impacted you in any way. Postscript: Knowing how destructive and hurtful affairs are, personally, if I was single, I could never be involved with a married man. It just would not ever be right. There is always the woman who is in the background, the wife, and I just could not ever do that to someone else. Never did when I was single, never will. The idea of hurting someone else just isn’t something I could do.

Marital Infidelity: The Other Person Doesn’t Care About You

If your spouse is having an affair and you want to confront the other person with the intent of having him/her understand your situation, you probably will be greatly dissappointed. The other person typically doesn’t care about you or your children, your pain or your situation.

Also, it is important to give thought to what outcome you want from the confrontation. Those who impulsively confront the other person do not find the confrontation fruitful.

A hint: when confronting the other person, do not ask questions. Make statements.

Here are examples of those who did not consider the above facts and found the confrontation less than helpful:

Confrontation #1:
1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

My purpose was to get the other person to see me as a person too, someone she was hurting. I also wanted her to know that I knew what was going on. I responded to text messages she sent my significant other asking her politely to leave us alone.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

She ignored my request, nothing happened.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

I probably would not have even sent the text messages, she didn’t care. I learned that the other person is immature and self absorbed.

Confrontation #2:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

getting some clarity to the situation – i found them the night before, she was my friend and i wanted answers as to why a friend would do this to me and hear her side of the story

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

she wouldn’t talk to me, was very cocky and sure of herself and said she would talk to me that evening but not at that moment and please leave. as i was shaking coz i was so upset i did leave. an hour later she text me and said she wasn’t about to get into a battle with me, there was nothing to say, it was all my fault and don’t contact her ever again.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

if i was to do it again i would have refused to leave until i got answers or at least made her squirm a bit. i was far too respectful of her wishes and not enough about my own. however long term i dont think its helpful in any way to interact with that person seeing as they obviously have no thought about you — if i a friend is going to do that to you then they aren’t worth talking to are they

Confrontation #3:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do

I wanted to let her know how badly their affair was hurting me and that I took care of his mom.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

She was nice and said she would stop seeing him, they didn’t stop though.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

I’ve done it numerous times, when I reach the end of my rope. I hear about them from friends and get so raged I call her. I would not do it differently

Confronting the Other Man: No Remorse – Bad Sign

The major intent of confronting the other person is usually to break up the affair, generate some sort of shift in the triangle (spouse, other person and cheating spouse) so there is a movement toward resolution.

This wounded spouse had a big strike against him and he was aware of it. His cheating spouse was showing no remorse, no guilt, no fear. It would seem her mind was made.

But, I’ve bumped into many who seemed hell bent on continuing the affair (especially the “I Fell out of Love… and just love being in love”) but at some point make a radical shift and end the affair.

Usually the cheating spouse in the “Fell out of love” affair has some “softness” about him/her. I get the impression the cheating wife below had a “hardness” about her.

So, he appeals to the other man, in hopes he has some sensitivity.

Was it a mistake to tell the other person not to tell the cheating wife about the confrontation? Most likely. And he is aware of this mistake. It fanned the fumes of the affair.

In hindsight, the wounded husband could have gotten about 2 inches from her eyebrows and said, “I’m not tolerating this anymore. I do not share my wife with another person. I’m confronting the other man to find out what he’s made of. And, I want you to know this.”

That intervention would have tested her “hardness” and resolve as well as state a very clear position which is not only attractive but very healthy.

He probably had little to lose with this sort of confrontation.

Here’s the case study:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

My purpose for confronting the other man was partly to bring it out into the open that I knew who he was. I also hoped that he would back off and give me time to try and save my marriage. I had learned who he was by secretly reading my wife’s e-mail (after she had admitted being involved with someone). I also knew from the e-mail that he seemed to feel much more guilt about the situation than my wife did (my wife seemed to feel no guilt whatsoever). I asked him if he was the one my wife was involved with. He said yes. I asked him to back off and he said he would. I also asked him not to tell my wife we had talked, and he said he couldn’t do that because he would have to explain to her why he was backing off.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

My wife was extremely upset when I told her I had talked to him and immediately went to see him. In the short term I think he did back off a little, at least as far as sex, and stopped letting her stay overnight. They continued to see each other, though. My request that he not tell her made me look sneaky and made my wife angry that I was “interfering with her life”. My wife moved out several months later, is still involved with the other man, and we’re proceeding towards divorce. My wife has even gone as far as introducing him to our children as her friend.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

I would have avoided asking him not to tell her we had talked. I’m not sure if there was a way I could have handled a confrontation that would have had a more positive outcome.