Emotional Infidelity: Nothing There

Confronting the other woman in this instance discovered that no one (emotionally) was home.

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

I contacted the OP to try and reveal some of the truth. I found them together on my anniversary. They were at her home and he backing his vehicle out of her garage. He told me he had to go there because she was going to commit suicide.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

The OP advised me that the affair has been going on for 2 years, they just finished making love, and the passion is so intense between the both of them that neither of them can give up the relationship. She also advised me that she was never going to commit suicide, however she did go on another date that night with another man that did not turn out favorable and my spouse came to the rescue. By other questions that I asked, I found that my spouse was more involved with her sexually than ever with me and nights he spent away from her.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

In this position, I do not regret confronting the OP. I did learn how mislead I was by my spouse. After I confronted the OP, I asked my spouse the same questions watched his body language and I was amazed how well he has lied. I am approaching 4 years after the affair, trying to work things out. I do regret trying to work things out and do wish I ended the relationship when I found them together. This is based on my learning experience from confronting the OP – I am with a professional liar.

Coach’s Comments:

It seems amazing how open and forthright the OP was in divulging the extent of the infidelity. It’s as if saying, “Well, I went to the grocery store, picked up a few things and drove back home.” No big deal.

This is a picture of two people (the OP and the writer’s husband) who merely don’t want to say no. Glands dominate. And, it would appear they will settle for that in a relationship, or are clueless about the power and richness of true intimacy with someone.

Lying becomes second nature for someone how “Can’t say NO.” It’s part of the character. Often lying extends into all arenas of life. It seems there is a need to build an illusion of need entitlement and that illusion is constructed on lies. Little depth.

It appears that he was unable to move any deeper in his relationships. It took four years of her knocking on his emotional door to find there was absolutely nothing behind it.

Infidelity and Tough Love

I’m doing research on confronting the other person. Although this man did not confront the OP, he did confront his wife in a powerful way, and it seemed to work for him.

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

After my W decided to separate I discovered few e-mails exchanged with her high school lover with whom she had a one night stand during their reunion and with whom she continued a long distance affair, even during our marriage therapy! To my shock I also discovered erotic messages exchanged with a co-worker and a message from a friend of hers telling “the hell with your H, go out and find somebody with whom you have chemistry and brings food on your table”. I was shocked, I vomited and I wanted to sort our problems under the same roof, w/o physical separation.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

My W turned white when I confronted her; said with the 1st lover it happened only once and with the co-worker is only a flirt and if I say something more about this guy she will go and “#$&% with him” the following day. When asked how she feel sleeping with her first lover she said she felt sorry for me finding out. Then turned nervous about me snooping through her e-mails. After a day she turned nice and was obsessed about what am I going to do with the evidence. She was afraid I will expose her affair to her boss.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

Absolutely. If involved in affairs, cheaters will continue to lie, minimize their actions. I waited three excruciating days until I confronted my W, but I would stay longer, get more evidence, a backbone and definitely support. Do not beg, ask for another chance, cry. Set clear boundaries and if the cheating spouse is willing to repair the broken trust, relationship, marriage, state clear you want proof the OP is completely out of the picture. The impression you can stop the behavior by exposing the evidence is false, they will continue on the infidelity path until they hit rock bottom. When having suspicions about an affair going in your spouse life it is usually what is happening. Get info on cheating people behavior and not be fooled by lack of complaining and improved sex life; you are simply a body, used in the most dirty manner. Definitely, do not involve family, close friends about the affair. They mean the best either for you, your spouse, but they cannot make decisions for you.

Coach’s comments:

I give this man credit for thinking through his actions and for learning. It sounds like this was a tremendous learning experience for him. He did his homework. Set some goals. Stuck with them. And got the optimum result he wanted.

He describes a strategy that some call “tough Love.” Set some boundaries. Hold firm. Don’t give in.

This strategy works best for the “I Don’t Want to Say No” Affair. Her “turning white” was her humiliation for being found out and the fear of being exposed. Once he held his ground, and she knew he would NOT back down, she called off her threats.

There may be thrown in here a tad bit of “My Marriage Made Me Do It” and perhaps “I Need to Prove My Desirability.” There is an undercurrent of anger or outright hostility emerging from somewhere and she seems cut off from appropriate feelings toward her husband.

Do you have thoughts? I and others would appreciate your comments below.

Good Catholic Girl Speaks Out

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

She is my husband’s assistant. He had an affair with a co-worker in their plant in Mexico for a year.

The asst. found out and was jealous she wanted to be the one he was having an affair with, the worst part is, she is also my neighbor. I found texts to my husband and lost it. the affair in Mexico was over 4 months ago. His assistant tried to be friends to both of us which I later found out all she wanted to get from me was my weak points and find out what was going on….

My husband is not interested and is still trying to make up to me for the whole Mexico thing. However this assistant of his started ignoring me. She even texted me a nasty message that they were only friends and I have issues of jealousy and trust….

I lost it. Showed them to my husband who FINALLY, WOKE UP. I finally told her that although they work together and I have little control over that ( now) she needs to understand the boundaries. She decided she should tell me off. I told my husband and he was very upset he took care of the situation the first thing he got into work the next day….

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

Getting over the affair is hard enough without finding out that other people are involved. She knew he was having this affair and claims to be my friend yet she never told me.

The outcome is – I am trying really hard to forgive and move on. We have alot of love. I believe humans make mistakes , I believe all marriages are difficult at some point but how you choose to handle them. Well that’s an individual choice.. I think I am handling it okay ;)

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

No. I was afraid for a long time to confront people even girls that have put themselves in my husbands life, for fear of him being mad at me……

20 years and 2 teenagers later I now feel I deserve to be treated fairly with love and loyalty and if he feels differently then he needs to be man enough to say i want out ! I am no longer “keeping the peace” which is how I was raised as a good catholic girl. I have two daughters, what would I be teaching them?

Coach’s comments:

Notice the theme and pattern in her life – of being the nice catholic girl who was the peacemaker – sometimes to the detriment of her well-being and integrity.

This sounds like a tremendous growth experience for her. She recognized the pattern, was probably suffering in silence, at times, for years. She was able to muster the courage to change the pattern.

And, yes, the walls didn’t fall down and the apocalypse did not occur.

And, I bet her husband feels tremendous relief and smiles, now that he realizes he is married to a person who will state her position, allow herself to be known – allowing him to engage HER, while respecting him at the same time.

And, her daughters are able given more choices as they watch their mother blossom.

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