Archives for April 2009

Confronting the Other Woman Out of Curiosity

Some have a burning desire to know about the affair and information about the other person. Some have absolutely no need to know, would prefer not to go there at all.

This case study reflects the person who wants to know. She wanted to know why this happened to her and her marriage after 27 years. Hopefully from this emerges personal growth and a deeper understanding about personal needs and the nature of relationships.

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

To gather information about the nature of the affair. To satisfy my curiosity as to what kind of person was able to ensnare my husband as he was unable to end his attachment, at the time, and was choosing to be with her and end our 27 year marriage.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

The first time I called the other woman the discussion was brief. She was surprised I knew her name and how to contact her. She asked me to call the next day as she was busy. I agreed and thanked her for her time. She immediately called my husband and he then asked me not to contact her again. I agreed. Five months later, my marriage was apparently at its end because my husband was, “too attached,” to end his affair, so I called the other woman again. She was very indignant and self righteous as if she was the wronged party. After initially refusing to talk she began to open up to refute several claims my husband had made about their affair. She asked for my email address to send “proof” that her rendition was more accurate. I hoped to receive the emails but a few days later (after I left a voicemail message restating my email address in case she took it down incorrectly) she sent a rudely worded email, and cc’d my husband, telling me how special the affair was to both her and my husband and that the emails they shared were none of my business and telling both of us not to contact her again. She called my husband a spineless coward, apparently referencing his inability to divorce me for her. My husband’s attempts, at that time, to restart their affair for a third time were rebuffed. He told her that I was just angry at her because he had just told me that he still had feelings for her, which was an amazing demonstration of his ability to lie and try to turn a bad situation around to his advantage (it didn’t work; she dumped him).

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

When I contacted her the second time, I thought my marriage was over so my objective was to learn everything I could to understand how this could happen to me after 27 yrs. of a very good, happy marriage and raising four sons. I was completely incredulous and could not rest until I tried the last (and most promising) source of information on the affair (the other woman). I think my approach was very tactful and disarming for her because she seemed to have had no intention of talking to me but found herself telling all. I learned several very significant details which my husband had lied about-he claimed his lies were to protect me and our marriage, but it’s apparent he just didn’t want to face up to the truth of how awful he was. The information I learned led to further disclosures by my husband, which I wanted. Significantly, I wouldn’t have believed my husband’s inital reaction of siding with the other woman, if I hadn’t seen it. He was furious at me and didn’t care about my feelings at all. All he cared about was the other woman’s feelings. He thought I attacked her and called her names to hurt her, which sounds unbelieveable as if he didn’t know what kind of person I am at all. His first words to me were, “our marriage is over!” Later, in small part because I wanted to test his loyalty, I sent a letter to the other woman’s employer to complain about her seducing my husband while on the job (she’s a flight attendant who asked my husband to take her out while allegedly “working” a nine hour international flight he was on; and I included other highly significant and relevant complaints). I assumed she would contact my husband about it and I could then see his reaction. Unfortunately, she didn’t contact him and I never learned how he would have truly reacted. When I later told him about it, he claimed he had no feelings for her and would agree to what ever I wanted done to keep us in reconciliation.

Confronting the Other Woman: Beware of the Stalker

The first question to ask when confronting the other person: “What am I dealing with?”

In this case study, the other woman initiated the contact with the wounded spouse – with much venom and hostility.

Why would someone do this? To break up the marriage? Possibly. To project rage? Possibly? To force the cheating husband’s hand? Possibly. Because s/he was high? Possibly.

If you feel a need to “fight for your turf” beware of the potential for escalation and nastiness. You don’t want to find yourself in the middle of this game.

Also, do a strict evaluation of your cheating husband’s mental health. Is he in any way colluding with the hostility of the other woman? If so, be extremely careful.

In the scenario below the wounded spouse set some firm boundaries (I will call the police) which worked. The other woman backed down.

And then, the wounded spouse decided to pursue. Wise? I wouldn’t recommend it. Takes too much energy and has too many risks. Why give her all that power?

On the other hand, the wounded spouse had the alliance of her husband, which gave her more ammunition (and safety) in the confrontation.

If you do not have the alliance of your cheating husband, don’t go anywhere near this confrontation.

Case Study:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

The other person was calling my cell phone and home phone and would not give her name, but told me she was “f888ing my husband for three years!” She had previously left unintelligible messages on my cell phone, saying I was stupid and ugly! I told her I would find out who she was and hoped that it was good with my husband. I also told her if she kept calling, I would contact the police. No more phone calls. After going through cell phone bill and saw her number and found out who she was, I called her. I wanted to let her know that she was a dumb ass and she was a fool to mess with some one as intelligent as me.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

I confronted my husband first and he confirmed who she was. I knew her, she had babysat out older kids when they were 3 and 5. Our kids were 17 and 19 at the time of the outing of the affair. After contacting her, she hung up on me, because she was scared that I found out who she was. I had thrown my husband and all of his belongings out of the house and I called her again, telling her she could have his sorry ass! She did not say anything. I then told her, if she ever called my house again and speak with one my children, she had spoke to my daughter, I would beat her ass! Never heard from her again and that was three years ago on 7/10/08. My husband and I separated for 1 1/2 months and when we reconciled, I wrote the other person a letter. I showed this letter to my husband. I let her know that she had only a small piece of my husband temporarily and that I felt sorry for her and not to hate me because I was beautiful! I also, let her know that she was of no significance in our lives and that there was no need to reply, because as far as we were concerned, she did not exist.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

I would have still called her, but I would not have told her she could have my husband. I said that in anger! Everything else I did, I am proud of. If the other person had not contacted me first, I would not have called her. She opened up that door and invaded my space. So, I felt I had the right to confront her. I learned not to make the affair about the other person. My husband was accountable for everything and held him responsible, not the other person. No way was I going to make her feel like she played some significance in my relationship with my husband. Too many windows had been opened before and it was time to close all of them! I directed all anger of the affair towards my husband and not the other person. As far as I was concerned she was just a fleck of dust, not important.

The Infidelity is NOT Your Fault

Here’s a short video in which I talk about a major shift in the healing and recovery process from infidelity. That major shift is refusing to accept fault or blame or any responsibility for the affair. It was his/her choice.