Archives for March 2009

Confronting the Other Woman: After 10 Years

The confrontation of the other woman in this scenario seemed like a long time in the making, but once it happened tremendous relief and power was experienced. As well it was the final cog in her decision making process of whether to stay or go.

The wounded spouse spent 10 years with her gut saying something was wrong – which there was. so, one can imagine her lightness, at moments, discovering the truth and with it her strength, power and capacity to move on from a toxic relationship.

Also, please note that she was able to elicit the truth from her spouse, before the confrontation with the other person.

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

My purpose was to acquire more information in order to help me process the whole ordeal and determine the severity of involvement between the 2 of them. As I had already heard from my wayward husband I needed to hear her take on the relationship. I feel that I received what I wanted to hear and it helped me to sort through the lies and process better. It was from this conversation that I realized that filing for divorce would at least put the outflow of cash to the other woman under scrutiny.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

I approached with dignity and respect not aggressive but definitely assertive. Do you love him? Response: oh no it’s not like that he just advised me as to how to open my business. We’re just friends. My response : OK the jig is up you can quit lying because he just admitted everything. Her response: Crying and oh my god my therapist says I’m not a bad person, I’m not a bad person. Me: I had no response to that. Me: Were there many hotel rooms and dinners locally as well as abroad? Response: Well yes there was some of that in the beginning. Crying crying crying her not me- Me; thanks for your time

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

I learned that they both become so entrenched in their lies that even when busted they still preserve the lie. I learned that she does love him. I learned that she is in therapy for this and something bigger than this likely a child from this union. Yet to be proven. I learned above all that my gut was right. A ten + year affair is tantamount to another marriage and there is no easy out. I learned that there allegiance resided with each other and not with us the spouses. I discovered my core strength, my control of my emotions and my capacity for the most difficult decision of my life…to end my 26 year marriage to a man who could lie cheat and steal both emotionally and financially from his wife and children with no compunction, remorse,or reservation.

Confronting the Other Person: Check Alliances First

I’ve read several instances where it was helpful to confront the other person if first there was some level of self disclosure by the cheating spouse about the affair. In other words, the cheating spouse was perhaps beginning to shift allegiance from the other person to the spouse.

If there is no self disclosure by the cheating spouse, and none can be elicited, it’s doubtful that confronting the other person will be helpful.

This scenario points to this fact:

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

I found out my partner was having the affair with her and couldnt get any answers from him. I just had to know what was happening.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

It did no good whatsoever and they carried on seeing each other to the point where I told him to leave. He did and has lived with her for two and a half years. It broke my heart.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

If only there was a chance to handle it all differently. I would have not told him to leave and tried to weather it. It may have burned out by itself. I just lost control and didnt think at all and just reacted very badly and now there is no chance ever to be with him.

Are we Raising a New Generation of Cheaters?

Saw an interesting article in USA Today a couple days ago. It was an interview with “Dr. Drew” – the TV self help guru.

He was talking about our tendency to focus on Celebrities as our role models.

Here’s part of the problem; however – many celebrities are internally fueled by their narcissism.. their need for attention, their need for excitement and chaos and their need to have others mirror back to them their greatness and stature.

This seemingly wonderful and exciting external behavior often masks a deep emptiness and barrenness of soul. The celebrity fears the day when s/he will be truly found out. As well, Dr. Drew points out that the “celebrity” often is attempting to cope with a history of profound childhood trauma.

The “Celebrity” often develops a sense of entitlement, as in others or the world “owing” him/her his self pleasure. Others are there to serve him/her.

The “celebrity” status is not confined to “Hollywood Stars.”

I think of the adulation we baseball fans heaped upon Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa in their home run duel, all the time cheating with their drugs.

I think of AIG CEO’s accepting their obscene bonus money probably without a whimper. After all, they are entitled, aren’t they?

I think of pampered athletes demanding new contracts… or they will hold out.

I think of politicians believing they can “get away with” sleeping around, hiring hookers or having an affair.

There is a theme or pattern in all of this: MY personal needs, desires or wants come first. Yes, I’m entitled to that. And, others ought in many ways at least close their eyes and allow me do what I want to do.

We watch this. Our young people watch their “celebrity role models.” And, so we focus externally, looking out there for our excitement, fun and “success.” Those who achieve this “success” become our models.

But we slide on a slippery slope, sliding towards that emptiness and barrenness of soul that “successful ones” desperately try to avoid. We cheat on others (and ultimately ourselves) because we lack the internal compass – the values learned in failure, dedication and discipline and from riding the uneven ground of life’s journey that includes heart break, loss, gain and joy… sprinkled together.