Archives for October 2008

Infidelity and What is Tolerated

Living with infidelity or the aftermath of infidelity can be hell (hope the word doesn’t offend you here, but it often seems an appropriate word for infidelity.)

The need to hold the marriage, family, children, lifestyle together is so strong for some that they tolerate or put up with a great deal.

I’m researching what is put up with and working toward strategies and tactics to break free and put up with less.

Here’s a question and responses:

1. What are the 5 top things you presently are tolerating or putting up with as you face infidelity?

>>>>>manipulation of money, his ability to lead a carefree life, irresponsibility, immaturity, disrespectful language towards others

>>>>>Texting He has a baby with her…visiting her. leaving without telling me where he is going He pays for her cell phone his coldness

>>>>>dishonesty after 33 years of marriage is horrible, not being able to trust your wife when she looks you in the eye and lies to your face about her affair being either the emotional or physical aspect.

>>>>>no more I love yous, no more sex, ignoring me, telling me he doesn’t think we are compatible, telling me I trapped him, this isn’t his first affair, he has had at least 3 that I know of, he says he’s here for the kids.

>>>>>always puts me down lumps me in with other people always on computer keeps phone and purse close by accuses of being nosy doesn’t return love

>>>>>Continued contact by email and Ichat with the op. Continued small details that connect her to him like her keeping up a blog – something he is really into and something she never was before. the fact she has poured herself into work since “stopping all contact”with him – working later….(he lives in another city). Wondering what is really going on in life, feeling like her second choice and only because of his distance that our marriage has survived at all.

>>>>>1)Putting up with his response of:”It had nothing to do with you, it was me” 2)Putting up “I don’t remember” when questions are asked. 3) When he doesn’t want to respond he gets angry and thinks I’m just going to walk away so he won’t have to answer. 4)Never ever believing I will ever trust again since he has had multiple affairs with no intercourse 5)Tolerating that he says he loves me but I just really don’t know. Told me often but look what he has done over and over again.

Want to talk to others about what you put up with and how you want to break free? Visit the chat room.

Infidelity and No Game Playing

I’m continually amazed with the comments I receive about the results of charging neutral – one of my core skills taught in “Break Free From the Affair.”
This person found it extremely helpful in confronting the other person.

What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

To warn her about my spouse telling untrue stories about me. I collected her phone nos from my spouse and called her.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

When I spoke with her on the phone, She denied having an affair with my husband while admitting that he actually made advances with the aim of having an affair.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

I would not bother to call as I later discovered that she reported all my phone conversations with her to my husband. I learned that it is most effective to charge neutral when you discover that your spouse is having a affair.

Coach’s Comments:

1. Here is an ever present danger of confronting the OP, if they are involved in “I Fell out of Love…and just love being in love” affair – it juices the affair relationship. It keeps it going. It gives it more fuel to burn.

2. Charging neutral puts you in a position of power and will give you the most influence. Don’t we appreciate and admire those who fail to be “game players,” who speak the truth eloquently, quietly, powerfully. It’s like you’ve been struck at your deepest level and you have no recourse but to accept it.

Extramarital Affairs: You Want the Truth?

The dilemma of finding the truth is expressed in this scenario of “Confronting the Other Person:”

1. What was your purpose for confronting the OP and what did you say/do?

When I confronted my husband with evidence that there was someone else I knew he was lying about who and how long. I called her in front of him to confirm his story.

2. What happened? What was the outcome?

Initially she pleaded the 5th, “were just friends”. I calmly spoke to her about my life, how many children I have, she then saw how he was lying to her as well. I got the truth – a long 8 year relationship that resulted in her own divorce. My husband finally admitted it all, and his tune changed. He became desperate to save our marriage.

3. If you were to do it again, would you do it differently? What did you learn?

It was hard to hear details from the o/w. But so much damage had been done. At that point I needed everything to make sense, I felt crazy. The truth forced him to make a choice. Were still trying to get through it, 1 1/2 years later.

Coach’s Comments:

The truth can hurt. But the truth does set one free also. That is the dilemma is it not?

Sometimes confronting the other person does reveal the truth. And, if one needs to eradicate that crazy-making feeling that arises in deception, confronting the other person becomes an option.

A by-product of this confrontation was the destruction of the triangle (the other woman saw his duplicity and his game was terminated.)

I applaud this person’s capacity to charge neutral in a very difficult situation.